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	<title>Comments on: The Theist&#8217;s Nightmare</title>
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		<title>By: ThisGuy</title>
		<link>http://saintgasoline.com/2009/02/16/the-theists-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-1512</link>
		<dc:creator>ThisGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given your allusion to the banana, am I to presume this is the guy who argues design by reference to the shape and size of the banana?

If so, this is someone who neglects the fact that humans have been breeding bananas selectively over the past 10,000 years or so. The size, shape and lack of seeds are resultant of countless generations of selective breeding... to the point that "God's" creation is on the verge of extinction due to breeding the seedless mutation into them on a broad scale.

I mean, his notion of design neglects human interference. It would be tantamount to suggesting that God designed a steering wheel.

That's a whopper of a digression, though.

Atheism is as unfounded a view as Christianity or any other religious view. I mean, from a purely scientific perspective, to issue the argument that evolution did not occur is rather irrational based on all of the evidence we have available to us through fossil records, evidence of micro-evolution in bacteria and viral cultures, etc. But the notion of God's non-existence oughtn't be tied into that. Nor should the notion of God be limited to any specific religious view.

Given that religious arguments tend toward burden of proof resting on the individual issuing the positive claim, it's easy to get caught up in it all and suggest that God doesn't exist as no one can provide evidence that he/she/it does, but that in and of itself isn't debunking the existence of God. It's simply stating that no evidence exists as of yet. The most scientifically defensible position, as a result, always tends to be that which suspends judgement in absence of evidence. I do regard it as unlikely that God exists, but certainly not impossible. Agnosticism seems to hold the better bet, for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given your allusion to the banana, am I to presume this is the guy who argues design by reference to the shape and size of the banana?</p>
<p>If so, this is someone who neglects the fact that humans have been breeding bananas selectively over the past 10,000 years or so. The size, shape and lack of seeds are resultant of countless generations of selective breeding&#8230; to the point that &#8220;God&#8217;s&#8221; creation is on the verge of extinction due to breeding the seedless mutation into them on a broad scale.</p>
<p>I mean, his notion of design neglects human interference. It would be tantamount to suggesting that God designed a steering wheel.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a whopper of a digression, though.</p>
<p>Atheism is as unfounded a view as Christianity or any other religious view. I mean, from a purely scientific perspective, to issue the argument that evolution did not occur is rather irrational based on all of the evidence we have available to us through fossil records, evidence of micro-evolution in bacteria and viral cultures, etc. But the notion of God&#8217;s non-existence oughtn&#8217;t be tied into that. Nor should the notion of God be limited to any specific religious view.</p>
<p>Given that religious arguments tend toward burden of proof resting on the individual issuing the positive claim, it&#8217;s easy to get caught up in it all and suggest that God doesn&#8217;t exist as no one can provide evidence that he/she/it does, but that in and of itself isn&#8217;t debunking the existence of God. It&#8217;s simply stating that no evidence exists as of yet. The most scientifically defensible position, as a result, always tends to be that which suspends judgement in absence of evidence. I do regard it as unlikely that God exists, but certainly not impossible. Agnosticism seems to hold the better bet, for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ziztur</title>
		<link>http://saintgasoline.com/2009/02/16/the-theists-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-1404</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, for some reason I've decided to completely refute his book for the whole world to see over at my blog - but I might go blind from all of the drivel before I finish it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, for some reason I&#8217;ve decided to completely refute his book for the whole world to see over at my blog - but I might go blind from all of the drivel before I finish it.</p>
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		<title>By: Riley, Queen of Everything</title>
		<link>http://saintgasoline.com/2009/02/16/the-theists-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-1403</link>
		<dc:creator>Riley, Queen of Everything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, I hate Ray Comfort. "You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, But You Can't Make Him Think"

What fucking evidence does religion HAVE?
And here I was, thinking science was the one that was foolishly trying to find ways to prove theories with evidence. Well, fuck me sideways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I hate Ray Comfort. &#8220;You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, But You Can&#8217;t Make Him Think&#8221;</p>
<p>What fucking evidence does religion HAVE?<br />
And here I was, thinking science was the one that was foolishly trying to find ways to prove theories with evidence. Well, fuck me sideways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan-LynnGriggs Lamberth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan-LynnGriggs Lamberth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most high advanced theologians actually make no more sense than Mr.Comfort. Faith does that to people!
   Note Alister McGrath's pathetic efforts! Google what others say about him. Debunking Christianity, for instance.
   Theology is a series of guesses and it must be's about a supreme mystery, surrounded by other mysteries, ostensibly being the ultimate explanation, but signifying nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most high advanced theologians actually make no more sense than Mr.Comfort. Faith does that to people!<br />
   Note Alister McGrath&#8217;s pathetic efforts! Google what others say about him. Debunking Christianity, for instance.<br />
   Theology is a series of guesses and it must be&#8217;s about a supreme mystery, surrounded by other mysteries, ostensibly being the ultimate explanation, but signifying nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: darter22</title>
		<link>http://saintgasoline.com/2009/02/16/the-theists-nightmare/comment-page-1/#comment-1391</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I am going to borrow a few of your well articulated ideas for my arguments with fundies. You have been bookmarked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I am going to borrow a few of your well articulated ideas for my arguments with fundies. You have been bookmarked.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Z</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say you are absolutely right to mention Ray Comfort as one of the best assets the Atheist movement has on its side. It's as close as you can get to showing people the latest Darwin Award winner's story and being able to say "see? I told you that you shouldn't do that!"

Comfort, like millions of others, simply does not understand how evolution works. They cannot easily comprehend the sheer numbers involved with evolution. When you try to say 7.1296^10000000000000 trillion trillion generations of offspring leading to what is a new species, they simply cannot fathom that much begetting, and can only imagine a crocodile and a duck mating. They will not admit evolution when it is shown to them, nor intermediate species when they are shown them. Those that think the world is less than 10,000 years old can't even imagine dinosaurs, single continent earth, planet killing asteroids, volcanic activity polluting the skies, magnitude 8+ earthquakes, ice ages, nor many of the other things we have proof of. 

His arguments are ignorant. I'm an atheist. I do not believe that nothing made everything. In fact, I do not believe anything about the origins of the Universe and life on this planet. There are several theories about origins of life and the Universe. None of them has any real evidence to support them other than the big bang; which in turn does not provide cause or motive. There are many things that we simply do not yet have the answer for, and may never have the answer for. One thing is certain: we won't find evidence that there is an all powerful, all knowing creator god that created all this, then sent Comfort as his representative. 

(Fingers crossed) Yes, i too will believe in god and creationism when Ray Comfort fuck himself in the ass with a broomstick... twice! It will certainly make good pics for someone's Facebook account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say you are absolutely right to mention Ray Comfort as one of the best assets the Atheist movement has on its side. It&#8217;s as close as you can get to showing people the latest Darwin Award winner&#8217;s story and being able to say &#8220;see? I told you that you shouldn&#8217;t do that!&#8221;</p>
<p>Comfort, like millions of others, simply does not understand how evolution works. They cannot easily comprehend the sheer numbers involved with evolution. When you try to say 7.1296^10000000000000 trillion trillion generations of offspring leading to what is a new species, they simply cannot fathom that much begetting, and can only imagine a crocodile and a duck mating. They will not admit evolution when it is shown to them, nor intermediate species when they are shown them. Those that think the world is less than 10,000 years old can&#8217;t even imagine dinosaurs, single continent earth, planet killing asteroids, volcanic activity polluting the skies, magnitude 8+ earthquakes, ice ages, nor many of the other things we have proof of. </p>
<p>His arguments are ignorant. I&#8217;m an atheist. I do not believe that nothing made everything. In fact, I do not believe anything about the origins of the Universe and life on this planet. There are several theories about origins of life and the Universe. None of them has any real evidence to support them other than the big bang; which in turn does not provide cause or motive. There are many things that we simply do not yet have the answer for, and may never have the answer for. One thing is certain: we won&#8217;t find evidence that there is an all powerful, all knowing creator god that created all this, then sent Comfort as his representative. </p>
<p>(Fingers crossed) Yes, i too will believe in god and creationism when Ray Comfort fuck himself in the ass with a broomstick&#8230; twice! It will certainly make good pics for someone&#8217;s Facebook account.</p>
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