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This explains why criticizing atheists for not addressing deeper theology is nonsense. Most of us are not concerned with the deistic, nothingness deities that theologians posit that hide their God's flaws in incomprehensibility and the unknowable. For all intents and purposes, such theologians are simply confused atheists, dressing nonexistence up like a God. Atheists are more concerned about the gods of the masses---the God that can talk to people and do things in the world, the God that fundamentalists think can invade their bodies and cause them to behave like imbeciles, and the God that mobilizes the religious to deride women and homosexuals or attempt to pass ridiculous religious legislation. We can overlook the theologians because we both agree that God has all the qualities of nothing. The difference is that we rightly point out that God is, in fact, nothing.
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James Rushing
13 June, 2009 at 12:45 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
Your play on words is entertaining, but leaves us with the old question: How did something come from nothing?
Saint Gasoline
13 June, 2009 at 4:28 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
Positing God doesn’t remove the implications of your question, James. For if God is not nothing, but is indeed something, then we are still left wondering why there is something (God) rather than nothing.
Magnus Bergmark
13 June, 2009 at 5:22 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
All I can say: Mind blown to pieces
Liew
14 June, 2009 at 10:27 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
I congratulate you for yet again producing a masterpiece worthy of widespread circulation in all religion-infested communities. However, the people who would benefit the most from this post are precisely the type of people who won’t be able to follow your beautifully articulated logic. I find that rather sad.
To James Rushing: To make it easier for you to follow Saint Gasoline’s counterargument, he’s basically saying: ‘What the heck created God then?!’ And then you get the infinite regression chicken-or-the-egg shit.
Race Dowling
14 June, 2009 at 11:01 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
It strikes me that children answer the riddle because they have not yet grasped the concept that nothing is not a thing. Most adults know that any statement that tries to address “Nothing is …” is incoherent.
Saint Gasoline
14 June, 2009 at 4:09 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
Liew, some would say my logic would be more beatifully articulated if it did not contain constant references to my penis. But then again, others would find it less beautiful were these references missing. And by these others, I mean me.
Engineer-Poet
14 June, 2009 at 5:34 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
And what about us guys? <vbeg>
I know quite a few ladies who would disagree with you there. Given that they’re lesbians, I’m sure they’d vote for something else… perhaps chocolate.
Jenny
16 June, 2009 at 10:54 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
It was mind blowing and amazing. By ‘it’ I mean your penis.
I love your style of writing. It’s sarcastic and rational. I stumbled on your blog some how and I am glad I did. When I get over the darlingness that is your penis, I will go back and read the rest of your blogs. You have great talent.
Insert references to your penis at your own accord.
Honkadoodle
17 June, 2009 at 4:49 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
When folks speak of God, they often use the terms omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent. These terms can be loosely translated as all-powerful, all-knowing, all-loving. All, all, all. Sounds like God is defined as everything. So, is nothing a part of everything? I understand your concept- what(or who) do I know that is all-powerful? Nothing! All-knowing? Nothing! All-loving? You get the point.
“…I worship nothing, in the sense that I do not worship, whereas the theologian worships nothing, too, but in the sense that they go through the motions of worship directed at nothing in particular, toward some unknowable, transcendant nothing.” The fact that you are talking about this “nothing” turns it into a something, wouldn’t you agree? It’s been a long time since I sat in a classroom, but I seem to recall a basic premise from Philosophy 101, in that simply thinking or speaking about something makes it exist. The something you are talking about is “nothing,” granted, but you have placed a tag on it, therefore making it no longer nothing, if you catch my drift, heh. Odd, I know. Or perhaps just archaic.
Let me leave you with a thought: can you know all without none, good without evil, joy without pain, success without failure etc etc.? Yin-yang hippie shit, I know, but possibly relevant.
So, Gas, since God is nothing, what is everything? And please don’t say it’s your penis.
Engineer-Poet
17 June, 2009 at 8:23 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
No, it doesn’t; that’s the fallacy of reification.
Honkadoodle
18 June, 2009 at 2:32 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
What does that mean? I won’t lie, I looked up reification, and all it means is turning a concept into a concrete thing… aren’t all things concepts?
Liew
19 June, 2009 at 9:13 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
‘The fact that you are talking about this “nothing” turns it into a something, wouldn’t you agree?’
Yes, this “nothing” is indeed something. And that something is the freaking CONCEPT of nothing, nothing more, nothing less. It does indeed ‘exist’, but only as a freaking concept in our freaking minds, not in the sense that I think you’re implying. That somehow just talking about something makes it a ‘concrete thing’ instead of just a ‘concept’. Don’t conflate the two. For example: I believe in the Flying Bacon Goddess. There. I just said ‘Flying Bacon Goddess’. Does that mean that a little girl in angel robes suddenly popped into existence flying around on a bacon rind? I. Think. Not. What it means that I just talked about a fictional concept called the ‘Flying Bacon Goddess’. That this fictional concept of a flying bacon goddess just came into existence. That is all.
I think this concept was mercilessly parodied in Terry Pratchett’s ‘Hogfather’ where an overload of psychic energy or something like that cause things that previously only existed as myths and stuff pop into existence the second someone mentions them.
Saint Gasoline
20 June, 2009 at 11:09 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
I see that Engineer Poet and Liew have already answered for me, Honkadoodle, so I will refer you to their comments.
And to Jenny, thank you for validating my delusional belief that my penis is amazing. In my infomercial, I will be sure to quote your approval.
Honkadoodle
26 June, 2009 at 2:49 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
Nice! I do enjoy this type of discussion, but know I will argue a point into the ground even if I am irrevocably wrong, if only to get a heated argument initiated. Just remember, reality in itself is a concept too.. hey, that flying bacon goddess exists in your world, Liew, and if you truly believe it, how can anyone convince you otherwise? Maybe you’ve smelled her? Seen her? Touched her? But noone else has… how do you prove she exists? Call it the Snuffalupagus theory. Noone can stand outside of their own conceptions. You are reading these words right now, and you know that Honkadoodle wrote them…prove it! Prove ANYTHING to be concrete, and you have proven that at least something is more than a concept in the first place. You only know what you yourself perceive, therefore, all reality is a concept.
SO, since everything is a concept, all concepts must exist to an extent, right? Or maybe nothing exists. But nothing is a concept too, ha!
Am I still wearing blinders with this idea? DO enlighten me.
Erosophy
10 July, 2009 at 12:51 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
Forgive me–I read two of your posts and initially left this comment on your new strategy for atheism post. It was meant as a comment on this post.
You make some compelling arguments in the second half of your post, but the problem is that one of your foundational premises makes a philosophical mistake.
The problem with “nothing”in the riddle is that grammatically, it acts as a name. But semantically, it is nothing of the sort. And yet you treat it as a name of a particular entity. See a Philosophy of Language textbook for relevant explanations.
Your entire post, unfortunately, is relegated to a heap of misguided, impertinent arguments because your initial premise is faulty. You want to disprove God’s existence, criticize the attributes traditionally ascribed to him, and be taken at least somewhat seriously. In that case, you’ll have to stop expounding on your body parts, showcasing your philosophical ineptitude, and vomiting flaccid arguments all over the web.
Saint Gasoline
12 July, 2009 at 6:18 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
I think that perhaps you’ve misread the post, Erosophy. I never claimed this is a “disproof” of God. Rather, my case is that theologians are not saying anything meaningful when they talk of “God” because it has no real qualities after it has been rendered mystical and transcendant. So ironically, I’m actually using the philosophy of language you mention to show that theologians are talking a lot of rot, not to “prove” that God does not exist. Unlike a theologian, I don’t think existential questions can be answered through logical proofs, and I don’t see where you are getting this idea.
Honkadoodle
27 July, 2009 at 9:30 PM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
No “flaccid” arguments meant; I am probably not as educated as quite a few of y’all, I just like to wax philosophical sometimes. Hey Saint, I added a link to your site from my livejournal blog, I hope you don’t mind. I wanted to email you to ask permission first, but couldn’t find any kind of contact info for you. That’s why I decided to sneak my question into this comment section- it being older n all, not many would have to read it. If you want me to remove the link, I will. Let me know.
I like your last comment. I have always believed that the more someone talks, the less he knows. Guess I should shut up now, then.
Saint Gasoline
26 September, 2009 at 8:46 AM (UTC -6) Link to this comment
“You make some compelling arguments in the second half of your post, but the problem is that one of your foundational premises makes a philosophical mistake.
The problem with ‘nothing’ in the riddle is that grammatically, it acts as a name. But semantically, it is nothing of the sort. And yet you treat it as a name of a particular entity. See a Philosophy of Language textbook for relevant explanations.”
The riddle is not a premise for my argument! The riddle merely provides a joking sort of introduction to the post. The joke revolves around the logical fallacy of reification. When I say, “Nothing is more satisfying than my penis”, the humor comes from the ambiguity created by the reification of the word “nothing”. It could mean “My penis is more satisfying than anything” or it could mean “Women prefer the complete absence of anything to the presence of my penis.” I freely admit to being illogical there, but in the context of a joke, that’s the whole point!
You’ll note that through the rest of the post I am careful to describe God in terms of “nothingness” or “the void” or “absence” and do not equivocate between other uses of “nothing”.